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rr_double_rr
11-15-2011, 01:15 PM
http://news.yahoo.com/players-reject-nbas-offer-threatening-season-001825470.html;_ylt=At7UXOfb23EmCVBmmenpuEqs0NUE;_ ylu=X3oDMTQ2cDJyY2I1BG1pdANTZWN0aW9uTGlzdCBGUCBTcG 9ydHMEcGtnAzIyNmI0MDU2LWU2ZTEtMzEwYy04YTdkLTY1ZmMx NjRlMjU3MQRwb3MDMQRzZWMDTWVkaWFTZWN0aW9uTGlzdAR2ZX IDM2JkNTRkODAtMGY4NC0xMWUxLTliYmMtODliZmJjYzIwOGY3 ;_ylg=X3oDMTFpNzk0NjhtBGludGwDdXMEbGFuZwNlbi11cwRw c3RhaWQDBHBzdGNhdANob21lBHB0A3NlY3Rpb25z;_ylv=3

Good, get rid of the unions, all of them. Then let the individual players realize what the results are, for the rest of us, of trying to hold your employer hostage. Freakin' babies.

Butthead
11-15-2011, 01:31 PM
the average nba player makes > $1 million per year. idiots.

Trey
11-15-2011, 01:31 PM
I haven't been following this too closely, but from what I understand, this really is a case of player greed while the owners get stuck with all the bills and risk. If that is the case, I'd be fine with the whole season being flushed.

Ringo®
11-15-2011, 01:40 PM
It's a case of millionaires fighting billionaires. I'm pretty sure I know who's going to come out on top.

rr_double_rr
11-15-2011, 01:41 PM
I haven't been following this too closely, but from what I understand, this really is a case of player greed while the owners get stuck with all the bills and risk. If that is the case, I'd be fine with the whole season being flushed.

That's pretty much what it is, based on what I have seen of it. The owners wanted to take back some of their earnings, since they were taking the financial risk anyway, and the players cried about it. Sure, I'd be pissed if my employer wanted to cut my wages to increase their earnings, too, but I'd also go get another job.

Oh wait, that's right, most of these guys can't do that because they treated the NBA like a career that would carry them for 20-30 years while they bought all of these lavish things. Rather than living modestly they bought palaces and luxury cars and have nothing left in the bank now. Some of them sunk their money into investments for businesses, and I applaud them. They have options. Those who didn't, welcome to the real world, now get a job, you are not eligible for unemployment or any government assistance for a mnimum of 20 years based on your previous earnings (that's how it should work in my mind).

Dave1kRR
11-15-2011, 01:58 PM
I think it's hilarious. These players really think they're entitled to more than the ludicrous amount of money they already make. They made their move and it was shut down. I could care less if the NBA didn't have a season ever again.

Mike, you're right. They live even above their huge pay grade and get themselves into trouble. Nothing to fall back on when shit hits the fan. Congratulations players!!

rr_double_rr
11-15-2011, 02:06 PM
I think it's hilarious. These players really think they're entitled to more than the ludicrous amount of money they already make. They made their move and it was shut down. I could care less if the NBA didn't have a season ever again.

Mike, you're right. They live even above their huge pay grade and get themselves into trouble. Nothing to fall back on when shit hits the fan. Congratulations players!!

10th WORD BABY!!! ENTITLED!!!

Core problem with society these days.

Derrick
11-15-2011, 02:16 PM
Shows one aspect of how screwed up our society is and all the celebrity worship that goes on here in the US. Economy is in the crapper and these dudes want more and more millions to toss a ball around. I will never understand the fascination.

ramm
11-15-2011, 02:19 PM
I haven't talked to ONE person that is upset about no NBA season...are there any people that will miss it if it never comes back? Seriously?

rr_double_rr
11-15-2011, 02:24 PM
I haven't talked to ONE person that is upset about no NBA season...are there any people that will miss it if it never comes back? Seriously?

I've talked with a few who are missing it, but don't side with the players, either.

Dave1kRR
11-15-2011, 02:24 PM
I haven't talked to ONE person that is upset about no NBA season...are there any people that will miss it if it never comes back? Seriously?

In all seriousness, NO. I've been waiting for this my whole life. :lol:

rr_double_rr
11-15-2011, 02:32 PM
In all seriousness, NO. I've been waiting for this my whole life. :lol:

Meh, I liked basketball in "the good days" of Jordan, Bird, Pippen and the like. As soon as one PA goes on strike, in my lifetime, I lose all respect for those players and the owners as well. That's why I am a mild pro sports fan as a rule. These guys/gals, while great at their sport, shouldn't be making 20 mil a year for throwing a ball around. The NFLPA claims about the sport being too rough, WHO FREAKING CARES!!! That's your chosen profession. If you don't like it, FIND ANOTHER ONE!!

It's not that easy for them because they blew the opportunities they had before them at earlier times to play sports, but it is that simple. Go ahead, Labron, Kobe, Shaq, Brady, etc; find ANY other job you are qualified for that pays what you were making that also allows you to be so whiny. You won't find it, and you'll be out on your ascot where you belong.

Dave1kRR
11-15-2011, 02:34 PM
Ok, ok. Just my whole adult life. I did enjoy those good ol' days watching them play. Don't forget Dominique Wilkins and Magic J.

rr_double_rr
11-15-2011, 02:37 PM
Ok, ok. Just my whole adult life. I did enjoy those good ol' days watching them play. Don't forget Dominique Wilkins and Magic J.

How about the MailMan?

Ringo®
11-15-2011, 02:55 PM
Replace them all with the guys from And1............everybody wins.

rr_double_rr
11-15-2011, 03:00 PM
Replace them all with the guys from And1............everybody wins.

Terminate all current players contracts, let them renegotiate, try out for a team again, and fill the gaps with college graduates. I think a mandate for any sports contract should be a college education. If you have a degree coming in to the sport, congrats, if you don't, you have 4 years for an associates, 8 years for a bachelor's, etc. I don't think that's placing too much strain on the poor pitiful little players, especially since they don't have to memorize plays, audibles, and options like NFL players do.

BTW, that clause for contracts should apply to any and all professional sports. That way kids aren't diluted into thinking that pro sports is a viable career path.

Dave1kRR
11-15-2011, 03:16 PM
Terminate all current players contracts, let them renegotiate, try out for a team again, and fill the gaps with college graduates. I think a mandate for any sports contract should be a college education. If you have a degree coming in to the sport, congrats, if you don't, you have 4 years for an associates, 8 years for a bachelor's, etc. I don't think that's placing too much strain on the poor pitiful little players, especially since they don't have to memorize plays, audibles, and options like NFL players do.

BTW, that clause for contracts should apply to any and all professional sports. That way kids aren't diluted into thinking that pro sports is a viable career path.

I agree to the point where they need to be given a dose of reality early in their careers as ball players so they don't pipe-dream about making it big and relying only on that because most likely it won't.

rr_double_rr
11-15-2011, 04:17 PM
http://www.thepostgame.com/blog/dish/201111/south-floridas-eye-popping-economic-hoops-losses

I'll bet the players didn't even think about all the fans that they are DIRECTLY hurting by doing this crap.

Dave1kRR
11-15-2011, 04:24 PM
http://www.thepostgame.com/blog/dish/201111/south-floridas-eye-popping-economic-hoops-losses

I'll bet the players didn't even think about all the fans that they are DIRECTLY hurting by doing this crap.

They don't care about anything except themselves. That's what this looks like. If they gave a good damn about anything but money, they'd be playing.

Trey
11-17-2011, 04:44 PM
I'd miss college hoops a ton... and no NBA means players may (shockingly) stay eligible in college for 4 whole years?!?!?

Only time I watch the NBA is usually the playoffs.. I keep up with the Hawks just to see how they are doing and all, but the season (just like MLB and NHL) is entirely too long for me to care enough to actually watch regularly.

SlimDizzleATL
11-17-2011, 05:28 PM
What the NBA is?

rr_double_rr
11-17-2011, 05:34 PM
I think that's what he means.

To me, when there are 150+ games in a season, what does one really matter?

It's not until you get to the end that it really picks up.


What the NBA is?

ramm
11-28-2011, 03:43 PM
So...they're back...

Dave1kRR
11-28-2011, 04:49 PM
so...they're back...

noooooooooooooooooooooooo!

ramm
11-28-2011, 04:58 PM
Guess they realized they had no money!

Dave1kRR
11-28-2011, 05:06 PM
lol. They have to go spend it on more ugly tatoos and other useless things!

willr1
11-28-2011, 06:33 PM
I think all professional atheletes should be paid a base salary, around $80-100kyr and then bonus' on performance and attributes to the team. Then, they would work harder to earn the high dollars not just ride some talent they had in college for a huge payout and then play mediocre in the pros

jkhonea
11-28-2011, 07:16 PM
I think all professional atheletes should be paid a base salary, around $80-100kyr and then bonus' on performance and attributes to the team. Then, they would work harder to earn the high dollars not just ride some talent they had in college for a huge payout and then play mediocre in the pros

I am sooo with this. Bunch of overpaid, spoiled brats. They can say what they want, but that is NOT work. They could EASILY just do it a few years and live off the money in, but they've got to go and blow their money on acting like kings. Screw them.

rr_double_rr
11-29-2011, 08:47 AM
“Anddd we’re back! On a brighter note, America’s unemployment rate just lowered,” wrote New York’s Landry Fields(notes).

Disgusting to make that kind of a joke when so many of your fans could live the rest of their lives on one year's worth of your salary, yet are out of work just looking to make ends meet and praying that they can get a 40k job. Yet you just did what equated to a 3 year old holding their breath when Mommy or Daddy makes them mad.

So far nothing has been ratified, and I'm thankful. Get rid of any CBA's in pro sports, and get rid of unions entirely. Then let them see what reality is like. I am hoping that talks break down again and nothing happens.

Moorespeedr
11-29-2011, 09:22 AM
I think all professional atheletes should be paid a base salary, around $80-100kyr and then bonus' on performance and attributes to the team. Then, they would work harder to earn the high dollars not just ride some talent they had in college for a huge payout and then play mediocre in the pros
^ This!:handclap:

I stopped watching pro baseball in 1998 when Kevin brown signed the first $100 million contract. The players were bitching about their pay then. I stopped watching pro football not long after that for the same reasons.

wbeck257
11-29-2011, 09:25 AM
I thought we liked the millionaires of the world because they dump money into the economy?
NBA players aught to be lauded because they spend every single dime of their contracts as fast as they can, employing countless numbers of people.
They are the 1%, and they don't hoard shit.

jkhonea
11-29-2011, 09:50 AM
If they spent themselves into oblivion and went on their merry little way, I wouldn't care. Wouldn't blink an eye, actually. What offends the hell out of me with pro athletes in ALL sports is when they have the balls to publicly start whining about "only" making $7 million and more per year. ONLY. Screw that.

wbeck257
11-29-2011, 09:55 AM
You know whats better than have $7 Million?
Having $8 Million...

They have a valid arguement. How much should the owners make off them?
They provide a very unique and profitable service and feel like their share of the profits should be more.. good for them.

I wish what I did made my employer that sort of money, so I could bargin like that.

rr_double_rr
11-29-2011, 10:11 AM
You know whats better than have $7 Million?
Having $8 Million...

They have a valid arguement. How much should the owners make off them?
They provide a very unique and profitable service and feel like their share of the profits should be more.. good for them.

I wish what I did made my employer that sort of money, so I could bargin like that.

The owners are the one's taking the risk. What happens when the team falls flat or goes red for a year? Do the players want to take a cut to make up the difference? No.

Like was said before, gimme, gimme, gimme.

Let the players go out and start their own league. There's nothing stopping them. Then as player/owners they can make all the money they want. Oh, but that's right, they may lose money. They don't want that. They want more for less.

jkhonea
11-29-2011, 10:29 AM
The owners are the one's taking the risk. What happens when the team falls flat or goes red for a year? Do the players want to take a cut to make up the difference? No.

Like was said before, gimme, gimme, gimme.

Let the players go out and start their own league. There's nothing stopping them. Then as player/owners they can make all the money they want. Oh, but that's right, they may lose money. They don't want that. They want more for less.

:stupid:

rr_double_rr
11-29-2011, 10:32 AM
Hey! I represent that remark.

jkhonea
11-29-2011, 11:37 AM
Hey! I represent that remark.

:D

Dave1kRR
11-29-2011, 12:29 PM
The owners are the one's taking the risk. What happens when the team falls flat or goes red for a year? Do the players want to take a cut to make up the difference? No.

Like was said before, gimme, gimme, gimme.

Let the players go out and start their own league. There's nothing stopping them. Then as player/owners they can make all the money they want. Oh, but that's right, they may lose money. They don't want that. They want more for less.

:up:

Derrick
11-29-2011, 02:32 PM
Get rid of all pro sports for 2 years. Restructure everything and cut their ridiculous salaries. The players will change their tune, they'll WISH they made even half of what they're asking for now.

Trey
11-29-2011, 02:39 PM
The owners are the one's taking the risk. What happens when the team falls flat or goes red for a year? Do the players want to take a cut to make up the difference? No.

Like was said before, gimme, gimme, gimme.

Let the players go out and start their own league. There's nothing stopping them. Then as player/owners they can make all the money they want. Oh, but that's right, they may lose money. They don't want that. They want more for less.


Bingo! Not saying the owners aren't greedy bastards too, but they assume a LOT more risk than the players do...

If my compnay doesn't turn a profit, I don't get a bonus or a raise.. I even run into the risk of being laid off.. If we do well, I get a share of the proceeds..

If the NBA team goes belly up (like many are close to doing), the owners assume all that loss.. the players however have lucrative contracts that prevent them from feeling any heat what so ever. Its a back-assward system if you ask me..

jkhonea
11-29-2011, 03:17 PM
Get rid of all pro sports for 2 years. Restructure everything and cut their ridiculous salaries. The players will change their tune, they'll WISH they made even half of what they're asking for now.


Bingo! Not saying the owners aren't greedy bastards too, but they assume a LOT more risk than the players do...

If my compnay doesn't turn a profit, I don't get a bonus or a raise.. I even run into the risk of being laid off.. If we do well, I get a share of the proceeds..

If the NBA team goes belly up (like many are close to doing), the owners assume all that loss.. the players however have lucrative contracts that prevent them from feeling any heat what so ever. Its a back-assward system if you ask me..

:up: