Planning engine swap...

[2slow]

Ok, not sure this is the place for this but im going to ask here since there are some smart people here ;)

I have an 08 gsxr 600 that i love the look and feel of. I bought it from someone who said they babied it but apparently that was not the case. It does run fine but it has 15K on it and I think im going to do a swap. I want to put an 08-09 GSXR 750 in my 600. I will find the instructions somewhere so thats not an issue, my question is, where do i get the motor? Should I look on craigslist for a used one? Should i find a rebuilt one? Should I get a factory new one? What is my best option?

In the end, i want this to be a sleeper. I want it to look like a 600, say its a 600 but be a nicely modded 750.

Ideas? Thoughts?

[Todd]

first off, anyone that knows anything about bikes, can stand next to the bike, glance down at the motor, and tell its a 750. With that said, it is a direct swap out since the 600/750 motors have the same frame.

As to where to find a motor, naturally your SAFEST bet is to buy new, but be prepared to spend a WAD of $$$. Anything other than that, ebay, craigslist, ect. you should be able to find a 750 motor, naturally, buying one from any of those means, you'll never know the TRUE shape of the motor.

[Derrick]

Just sell it and buy a 750, then swap the stickers. They share the same chassis.

[TLR67]

first off, anyone that knows anything about bikes, can stand next to the bike, glance down at the motor, and tell its a 750. .

Nope.. Same cases ect... Looks Identical.. Just a different Bore, Pistons rings ect... You will need a new ECU, Harness, Airbox and a Speedo... Same goes for the 07-06 600's and 750's... Its a very easy swap but as others said.. Almost easier selling what you have for a 750.. As far as the sleeper comment it will be funny when a 600 still beats you.. There is not that big of a difference between the 2 on the road..

[2slow]

Just sell it and buy a 750, then swap the stickers. They share the same chassis.

I know this may sound odd but I really want to do this to learn more about my bike. I love working on older cars (when i have one) and now, i have been enjoying doing the simple maintenance stuff (spark plugs, oil, brakes etc). I really want to do this project to pull the bike apart and and put it back together. I dunno, call me strange but sitting in my garage, listening to music with a beer in my hand while tooling on my bike really does sound like a good time to me.

And, if the 750 isnt that much different than the 600, should i maybe make it a challenge and get a 1000 and put it in there ;)

[TLR67]

1000 wont work w/o heavy fabrication... And even if it did it the geometry would be way wrong... At least on the 06-08 and up GSX-R's... Now a 09-10 1000 Engine will fit in the 750's of 09-10

[bigb996]

like everyone has said, just sell the 6 and buy a 750. If your wanting to learn buy a cheap used bike to take apart and put back together. It will save you a lot of money in the end.

[Todd]

Nope.. Same cases ect... Looks Identical.. Just a different Bore, Pistons rings ect... You will need a new ECU, Harness, Airbox and a Speedo... Same goes for the 07-06 600's and 750's... Its a very easy swap but as others said.. Almost easier selling what you have for a 750.. As far as the sleeper comment it will be funny when a 600 still beats you.. There is not that big of a difference between the 2 on the road..try to run one thru WERA tech and see if the tech inspector cant tell by just looking at it that its a 750. ;)

[TLR67]

try to run one thru WERA tech and see if the tech inspector cant tell by just looking at it that its a 750. ;)

Unless he saw the Throttle Bodies I think it would have to be protested... I think this actually happened.. Again Todd there is no visible difference between the 600-750 engine.. Now the forks are a different story.. At least from the 06-07 standpoint....

[2slow]

This thread can go away, im just going to sell it and move up to a 1000 i think. Either way, its up for sale on these classifieds and soon to be others. Thanks a bunch for all of the comments, you all helped me realize i dont want the headache and just need to buy the upgrade :)

[TLR67]

Can we still dink beer in your garage?

[Mongo]

try to run one thru WERA tech and see if the tech inspector cant tell by just looking at it that its a 750. ;)

Visibly no, but they do sound a touch different and it's easy enough to figure out by digging into it a little.

[Todd]

Unless he saw the Throttle Bodies I think it would have to be protested... I think this actually happened.. Again Todd there is no visible difference between the 600-750 engine.. Now the forks are a different story.. At least from the 06-07 standpoint....
i stand corrected. I just found out that yes, indeed the motors are identical in outward appearance. BUT, a glance and the motor numbers, and there is a letter in the motor numbers that distinguishes a 600 from a 750, so yea, the tech officials from most any race org. can spot it at a glance. Squids, naaaaa, they'll never know the difference.

[jdread]

i stand corrected. I just found out that yes, indeed the motors are identical in outward appearance. But, a glance and the motor numbers, and there is a letter in the motor numbers that distinguishes a 600 from a 750, so yea, the tech officials from most any race org. Can spot it at a glance. Squids, naaaaa, they'll never know the difference.

wow!

[Todd]

:lol: dammit James, i told you a long time ago, i'll admit when im wrong...........................its just that im not wrong very often. :D:D

Oh, and 2Slow, do us all a favor, if youre gonna list this bike for sale, dont leave this part out of the ad:
I bought it from someone who said they babied it but apparently that was not the case.otherwise, it sounds like youre trying to scam your friends/fellow GSB members. ;)

[TLR67]

Its OK Todd... If I didnt own both I would think the same..... Now a R6 Motor looks the same as a R1 Too!! : )

[Todd]

:crackup: if thats the case, then im putting an R1 motor in my bike!!!!

[TLR67]

:crackup: if thats the case, then im putting an R1 motor in my bike!!!!

Just tell them at Tech you know me!! LOL.... Then hand in your license....

[Todd]

hey, the old fart class IS superbike rules, anything goes, right? :D

[TLR67]

hey, the old fart class IS superbike rules, anything goes, right? :D

I hear Those tech Inspectors put those stickers on quick when you have a couple 20's tucked in the frame sliders... ; )

[2slow]

Hey guys, I got a valid PM about my comments in here and about me putting it for sale. here was / is my response, im not hiding anything:


--- RESPONSE ---
Honestly, i have been mulling around the idea of swapping out the motor because:

1. Im a big guy and a 600 just isnt right for me
2. The girl i bought it from said she babied it around the mountains but turns out, she was just a crappy owner. So i had to go through and replace a lot of stuff which is fine, just unexpected.
3. I have been talking about getting rid of it with my family because I drive it to the center of Atlanta every day and i sware i almost die every day. The morons on 85 (and maybe im one for going on 85) just dont watch out and it scares the shit out of me.
4. Yes, i used the family thing as the sales pitch because its partially the main reason. I honestly didnt want to be called a pussy for selling because of the dangers or given shit because I just got the bike and wanted to swap motors.

I have no problem keeping this bike. At this point, my plans are up in the air. I love riding but am truly scared with these atlanta drivers. So, if that makes me a pussy, so be it.

In the end, i have no problem taking the bike to a shop to get it looked at/certified/whatever. I am not trying to rip anyone off. I think im offering a fair price for what the bike is.

I hope this clarified a little.....

[TLR67]

I think you should do a trackday with that 600.... I bet you wouldnt want a bigger bike when you really find out what that thing can do.....

[bigb996]

1. Im a big guy and a 600 just isnt right for me

This always makes me laugh and shake my head when i see it.



your not a pussy for not wanting to ride to atlanta, i have riden a bike to atlanta once, and didn't touch 85. I wont go near the perimeter or atlanta period bc of all the retards that drive out there. Sportbikes arn't really made for commuting anyways.

[Georgiacbr]

This always makes me laugh and shake my head when i see it.



your not a pussy for not wanting to ride to atlanta, i have riden a bike to atlanta once, and didn't touch 85. I wont go near the perimeter or atlanta period bc of all the retards that drive out there. Sportbikes arn't really made for commuting anyways.

This just hit it on the nail listening to this and I agree. I can't stand Atlanta Traffic and avoid the place at all cost. I've ridden there a few time's on my bike and pretty much can't stand the retards either. People have No clue about proper signal's nor care for that madder. I avoid 285 and (watermelon 400). Yea Sportbikes are not made for commuting and I use my truck for that aspect if I really want to get out that bad.