View Full Version : Hands go to sleep??
SlimDizzleATL
05-03-2010, 10:14 AM
Anyone else have them problem of their hands falling alseep on rides? The left one is usually ok but sometimes my right hand goes numb. I had it under control on the Katana, but it feels like its worse on the F4i. Im already going to get some new grips and gloves with gel in the palms, but is there anything else I can do (riding position, etc). Thanks in advance
P.s. - Excessive vibration doesnt seem to be an issue.
TarzanMan
05-03-2010, 10:24 AM
Stop gripping the bars/clip-ons so hard and put less weight on your wrists
TLR67
05-03-2010, 10:27 AM
+1
TroyBoy30
05-03-2010, 10:28 AM
not since i bought the tuono!
Derrick
05-03-2010, 10:38 AM
relax..
TroyBoy30
05-03-2010, 10:46 AM
:crackup:
Derrick
05-03-2010, 10:53 AM
when you want to go to it..
redciv1
05-03-2010, 11:03 AM
^^^Frankie Goes to Hollywood.
You know SLIM I had the same thing when I first started riding the Kat. I thought it was because I did not have bar ends and I was getting more vibrations from the bars, however, I noticed that I don't get that anymore.
BTW, did you get the F4i?
Also adjust the levers so your wrists are straight and not bent when braking/shifting.
Butthead
05-03-2010, 12:17 PM
you know you are gripping it too hard when it turns purple!
Gamecock
05-03-2010, 12:19 PM
You could get a bar snake or fill the bars with lead shot. Just another option.
SlimDizzleATL
05-03-2010, 12:21 PM
That song makes me want to kill the malaysian prime minister....Some of yall will get that later.
Anywho, Redciv, I did get the F4i. I thought about relaxing a bit, but yesterday was my first (semi) long ride on the F4i. The wind was so heavy I was afraid to let go of the grips. Oh well, I'll try to relax a little next time. Maybe the wind wont be beating me up next ride.
Peteyglad
05-03-2010, 12:28 PM
When you say "rides", how long are we talking before you start to feel this? A few miles, a few hundred miles?
NiceGuysFinishLast
05-03-2010, 12:41 PM
Not only do you need to adjust your clipons.. adjust the brake/clutch levers so your hands/wrists aren't bent during normal riding. But like everyone else has said, loosen your grip.. you should be able to flap both elbows like a chicken while riding without affecting the steering of the bike... loosey goosey.
SlimDizzleATL
05-03-2010, 12:50 PM
When you say "rides", how long are we talking before you start to feel this? A few miles, a few hundred miles?
After about 20 miles or so.
Niceguys, that sounds about right. Not 100% sure what clip-ons are, but I know about the bent elbows. They stressed that at the MSF. I also need to get my throttle adjusted. Theres a lot of play.
Not only do you need to adjust your clipons.. adjust the brake/clutch levers so your hands/wrists aren't bent during normal riding. But like everyone else has said, loosen your grip.. you should be able to flap both elbows like a chicken while riding without affecting the steering of the bike... loosey goosey.
Good advice about the levers. I would not have thought about that(please read post #10)
NiceGuysFinishLast
05-03-2010, 01:24 PM
Good advice about the levers. I would not have thought about that(please read post #10)
Bahahaha.. that's what I get for (literally) waking up, rolling over, grabbing my laptop and posting on GSB... Thought I skimmed pretty well, guess I didn't.
flatblackrr
05-03-2010, 04:59 PM
well i had the same problem, my problem is i would put alot of weight on my harm and hands, i got some tank grips and that helped me alot.
After about 20 miles or so.
Niceguys, that sounds about right. Not 100% sure what clip-ons are, but I know about the bent elbows. They stressed that at the MSF. I also need to get my throttle adjusted. Theres a lot of play.
Clip-ons are the things you hold onto when riding the bike. They're attached to the bike's forks via clips - hence the term clip-on.
I have the same numbing issue on my R6S. Strangely it's gotten a bit worse over time. I don't hold on tight at all, and my posture is OK, though I do put a bit too much weight on my palms out of laziness. To be honest, a bit of discomfort goes with the (sport bike) territory.
joemama
05-09-2010, 08:31 PM
Squeeze your tank with your legs to relieve your upper body weight.
MX Tuner
05-09-2010, 10:15 PM
It may be the bend of the bars. You might be able to get used to it or you may prefer to get some bars that don't bend down as significantly.
NiceGuysFinishLast
05-10-2010, 12:58 AM
Clip-ons are the things you hold onto when riding the bike. They're attached to the bike's forks via clips - hence the term clip-on.
I have the same numbing issue on my R6S. Strangely it's gotten a bit worse over time. I don't hold on tight at all, and my posture is OK, though I do put a bit too much weight on my palms out of laziness. To be honest, a bit of discomfort goes with the (sport bike) territory.
Try a new set of grips (and/or gloves... don't forget, gloves are consumables, they wear out), and possibly some heavier bar ends. A little discomfort goes with the territory, but there are ways to minimize it. As a long distance/year round rider, I believe you should be as comfortable as you can be on the bike, discomfort is a distraction, which can be detrimental to your safety.
patri0t
05-10-2010, 01:24 AM
I bought one of these for long rides - http://www.crampbuster.com/. It works great as you can let go with your grip and just use your palm to gas the bike. It slips on and off the throttle easily and is tiny enough to fit in a jacket pocket when you're not using it. I rode from Savannah to Hiram on my ZX6R with this and it helped tremendously!
CoolJoker197
05-10-2010, 02:58 AM
all motors get bad vibes at certain rpm, there's nothing you can do about that. gearing changes are a good way to solve cruising rpm range isses but that only goes so far, and then you must consider performance loss/gain from gearing changes and what rpm you like to cruise at etc.
sometimes i just have to take my hands off the bars and give them a few seconds to chill out. making the bars and bar ends heavier works but only so much.
The Lazy Destroyer
05-10-2010, 01:43 PM
Anywho, Redciv, I did get the F4i. I thought about relaxing a bit, but yesterday was my first (semi) long ride on the F4i. The wind was so heavy I was afraid to let go of the grips. Oh well, I'll try to relax a little next time. Maybe the wind wont be beating me up next ride.
After about 20 miles or so.
Niceguys, that sounds about right. Not 100% sure what clip-ons are, but I know about the bent elbows. They stressed that at the MSF. I also need to get my throttle adjusted. Theres a lot of play.
Sounds like a tensing issue in your hands/arms to me. You should be able to brace yourself pretty well with your legs, it shouldn't take much to keep you planted as speed. Also I've found that just bending your elbows isn't enough. You have to make sure you are relaxed with no weight put onto the palms. You can bend your elbows and still be tense.
I also agree that you need to check to make sure your levers are positioned correctly. Not sure on the F4i's but some bikes clip-ons can be adjusted moreso than others, so you might be able to change the angle of the clip ons too.
You can also try bar ends but I do not have bar ends on mine and I've done quite a few 1,000 mile days. It might help you but if your hands are giving you issues after only 20 miles it might be more than just mild bar vibration.
The Lazy Destroyer
05-10-2010, 01:45 PM
I bought one of these for long rides - http://www.crampbuster.com/. It works great as you can let go with your grip and just use your palm to gas the bike. It slips on and off the throttle easily and is tiny enough to fit in a jacket pocket when you're not using it. I rode from Savannah to Hiram on my ZX6R with this and it helped tremendously!
These work really well. I have this along with a throttle lock and rarely use the lock, even on the endurance rides.
zeit00
05-10-2010, 01:46 PM
Its called "The Stranger" learn to love it..
I have the same problem on my F4i. I have gel grips and large bar ends.. and it helped just a bit..
MikeyV
05-18-2010, 06:51 PM
Hey Slim, the throttle adjustment on the F4i ('05 anyway) is about 3 inches from the throttle itself, just after the elbow tube exiting the throttle. You said you needed to get it adjusted. It's simple to do it yourself unless you really have a lot of play. Then you might need a real mechanic. Just loosen the locknut, adjust it, and tighten the locknut back up.
SlimDizzleATL
05-18-2010, 09:01 PM
Hey Slim, the throttle adjustment on the F4i ('05 anyway) is about 3 inches from the throttle itself, just after the elbow tube exiting the throttle. You said you needed to get it adjusted. It's simple to do it yourself unless you really have a lot of play. Then you might need a real mechanic. Just loosen the locknut, adjust it, and tighten the locknut back up.
Thanks for that info Mikey. I went ahead and let MarMo do it when they put on my grips. The play was pretty bad, at least a quarter twist before anything happened.
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