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roadlizard
02-26-2010, 09:38 PM
I've upgraded my camera, so I'm looking to sell my D80, the battery grip, and several Nikkor lenses.
The camera is 3 years old. I just had the sensor cleaned. It's got a lot of use, but it is working fine, and it's been a good camera for me. I hate to give it up, but I'm upgrading to an FX body, and I need the cash for the more expensive lenses and accessories. I'm including the Nikon EN-EL3E rechargeable battery, and a 1 Gb SD card with it. It has the original box, all the cables (USB, Video for TV), manual, as well as the software CD's that came with it. I'll throw in a couple of D80 how-to books for free as well as a MC-DC1 direct-attach remote shutter release cord. The camera body itself was about $1K brand new.

The MDB-D80 battery grip holds 2 EN-EL3E batteries. These batteries really hold a charge, as I can get better than 1000 pictures per battery, so if you get the battery grip, it will have twice the battery power as well as the vertical grip controls. I've shot as many as 600 pics in a day, and had plenty of battery power to upload the pics afterwards. You could use a card reader, but the batteries are so strong, you don't have to.

I'm also selling 3 lenses. They're all Nikkor (Nikon) brand lenses, and I've been the only owner. The 16-85 VR was my wide-angle lens and just general walk-around lens. It doesn't do badly at macro either, although that's not what it's really designed for. The 50mm F1.8 is great inside with low-light situations, and probably the best buy of all Nikon lenses since it's less than $150 new.

So here's the inventory and the prices that I'm asking:

D80 10.2 Mg Digital SLR - $450
MBD-80 battery grip - $50
Nikkor 18-135mm F/3.5-5.6G - $250
Nikkor 50mm F/1.8D AF - $110
Nikkor DX 16-85mm F/3.5 - 5.6G VR - $600

If anyone's interested, just pm me and I'll give you my cell. I'll be glad to meet someone half-way as long as they're in the metro Atlanta Area.

I have all the original boxes and manuals with all of these pieces. Below are pics.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v336/busaben/D80%20and%20Accessories/DSC_0028-2010-02-19at15-58-28.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v336/busaben/D80%20and%20Accessories/DSC_0036-2010-02-19at16-12-05.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v336/busaben/D80%20and%20Accessories/DSC_0031-2010-02-19at16-05-00.jpg

highside
02-26-2010, 10:19 PM
Which FX body are you getting? D700? :drool:

jkhonea
02-26-2010, 10:20 PM
Will that battery set up work with a D70s? If so, I believe I'm interested in that. I've heard it does wonders for the balance of the camera.

Mr. OX
02-26-2010, 10:20 PM
AWESOME deal, now you make me wanna sell my D40 to get your stuff!

roadlizard
02-26-2010, 10:55 PM
Which FX body are you getting? D700? :drool:

Yes. It is drool worthy.

roadlizard
02-26-2010, 10:56 PM
Will that battery set up work with a D70s? If so, I believe I'm interested in that. I've heard it does wonders for the balance of the camera.

Don't know. I think it's designed specifically for the D80, but I'll google it and see.

jkhonea
02-26-2010, 10:58 PM
If you find out it can work with the D70s, please let me know.

roadlizard
02-26-2010, 11:02 PM
Will that battery set up work with a D70s? If so, I believe I'm interested in that. I've heard it does wonders for the balance of the camera.

Looks like the MBD80 will only work with the D80 or D90 camera's. There's a separate part number for the D70's and it appears to have a different shape.

highside
02-26-2010, 11:11 PM
Yes. It is drool worthy.

Yes, indeed! I'm waiting for the price to drop just a little more. I'm doing OK with my D200 but and FX body would be nice. All but one of my lenses are FX so the lens issue isn't much of an issue.

roadlizard
02-26-2010, 11:19 PM
Yes, indeed! I'm waiting for the price to drop just a little more. I'm doing OK with my D200 but and FX body would be nice. All but one of my lenses are FX so the lens issue isn't much of an issue.

You're doing it the smart way. When the replacement for the D700 comes out, the D700 will be available for a $1000 less. Eventually, I think Canon and Nikon both will put FX sensors in all of their cameras.

highside
02-26-2010, 11:28 PM
You're doing it the smart way. When the replacement for the D700 comes out, the D700 will be available for a $1000 less. Eventually, I think Canon and Nikon both will put FX sensors in all of their cameras.

Yup. Makes sense. DX will be relegated to the consumer masses like Coolpix is today.

Sanchez
02-28-2010, 09:26 PM
I've upgraded my camera

Cool, what (subjects) do you shoot? I have a new Canon 7D coming in the mail tomorrow, so I'm pretty excited myself.

highside
02-28-2010, 09:33 PM
We need to start a photography forum. LOL (or post up some of our best shots. Sanchez, why didn't you go for the 5D (just a little more. ;) )

roadlizard
03-01-2010, 12:10 AM
Cool, what (subjects) do you shoot? I have a new Canon 7D coming in the mail tomorrow, so I'm pretty excited myself.

Mostly landscapes and I also do some little league soccer games as my nephews are pretty good players and their parents like my pics. I enjoy trying to get some good action shots of them in the heat of the moment. I've also got in mind to add some flash photography skills this year for some portrait work.

roadlizard
03-01-2010, 12:14 AM
We need to start a photography forum. LOL (or post up some of our best shots. Sanchez, why didn't you go for the 5D (just a little more. ;) )

Wouldn't hurt my feelings to start a photography forum on the board, but I'm sure you're busy enough now as it is.

highside
03-01-2010, 07:39 AM
You know there would be whining about, "what does photography have to do with sportbikes," and "there are plenty of of photography forums out there, blah, blah...." Do you have a Flickr account?

roadlizard
03-01-2010, 11:27 AM
You know there would be whining about, "what does photography have to do with sportbikes," and "there are plenty of of photography forums out there, blah, blah...." Do you have a Flickr account?

I'm sure you're right. I do have a flickr account, although I actually just joined a week ago and haven't populated it yet. A guy I work with is a professional photog, and he turned me on to flickr after I got my d700.

highside
03-01-2010, 11:31 AM
My Flickr photostream is at http://www.flickr.com/photos/rauljerez/. Let me know when you have your set up.

eddie98
03-01-2010, 07:06 PM
so the camera doesn't come with a stock lens? :D

roadlizard
03-01-2010, 10:12 PM
so the camera doesn't come with a stock lens? :D

Actually it did, that was the 18-135mm listed above. However, brand new, I paid $1350 for the pair (camera and kit lens). I listed separate prices because a lot of people probably don't want all of the lenses or just wanted one or 2 pieces I listed. I didn't really expect one person to want everything. As with motorcycles, a lot of people just buy a piece here and there as they get the money.

eddie98
03-03-2010, 12:53 PM
I don't know anything about cameras but I would like to get a good entry level one so I can get good pics. The point-and-shoot are doing to job for now

roadlizard
03-03-2010, 04:21 PM
I don't know anything about cameras but I would like to get a good entry level one so I can get good pics. The point-and-shoot are doing to job for now

for entry level SLR's, you could go Canon rebel or Nikon D40 or D60. Also, I've got a high-end point and shoot, the Canon G11 is a pretty good camera, or a used G10 somewhere for even cheaper. It's got all the major feature of an slr in a point and shoot body. You can shoot in aperture, shutter, or manual mode and change your iso or white balance. Same stuff as the slr's, but you just can't change lenses. It runs in the $500 ballpark. You might find one for around $400 on the web.

Frank Law
03-05-2010, 11:08 AM
if i were to buy the camera and only one of the lenses, which lense would be the best for all around use?

MrBlah
03-05-2010, 11:18 AM
if i were to buy the camera and only one of the lenses, which lense would be the best for all around use?

you want a range, something along the lines of 18-135. The 50mm is a great lens too but it's fixed, no zoom, it's good for portraits

I have the spendy 18-200 vr and it's an unbelievably great lens

Frank Law
03-05-2010, 11:20 AM
Good to know. Thank you. Would that setup produce pictures that are the type that are so clear when they get posted on the net people comment on the camera? I have a digital camera now but I have no idea what it takes to get the super clear pictures that are so nice to look at.

DICKIEDOO
03-05-2010, 11:26 AM
Good to know. Thank you. Would that setup produce pictures that are the type that are so clear when they get posted on the net people comment on the camera? I have a digital camera now but I have no idea what it takes to get the super clear pictures that are so nice to look at.


I'm with Frank. I'd like a good DSLR for vacations, track stuff, and general use.

MrBlah
03-05-2010, 11:30 AM
a steady hand, lots of practice, and with digital the trick is take hundreds of shots, they are free, it's not like you have to develop film, so take LOTS of pictures instead of one or two

Frank Law
03-05-2010, 11:34 AM
right but the hardware produces the clarity. if i am using an inferior camera (megapixels is how they are rated i think?) then the clarity will not be good. is the type of setup advertised here going to provide the great shots assuming a good photographer is using it?

perhaps the seller could post some pics shot with this camera with the different lenses so as to show the example of what to strive for?

Gmoney
03-05-2010, 11:40 AM
yes - if you know what u are doing - u will get amazxing shots with it.

Sanchez
03-05-2010, 11:47 AM
right but the hardware produces the clarity. if i am using an inferior camera (megapixels is how they are rated i think?) then the clarity will not be good. is the type of setup advertised here going to provide the great shots assuming a good photographer is using it?

perhaps the seller could post some pics shot with this camera with the different lenses so as to show the example of what to strive for?

The short answer is that, yes, you will get great shots with this setup. Megapixels aren't really that important. Lenses make the most difference. A 6 MP SLR with a quality lens will take far better shots than a 10 MP point-and-shoot with a crappy lens. Photography is one area where you really get what you pay for.

Here's an example. Two shots taken with my Canon 30D using two lenses. The first lens is an inexpensive Tamron, and the second lens is a top-of-the-line Canon L series.

http://optimus.incorrect.org/images/Lens_Comparison_2.JPG

The expensive lens is noticeably sharper.

roadlizard
03-05-2010, 11:51 AM
right but the hardware produces the clarity. if i am using an inferior camera (megapixels is how they are rated i think?) then the clarity will not be good. is the type of setup advertised here going to provide the great shots assuming a good photographer is using it?

perhaps the seller could post some pics shot with this camera with the different lenses so as to show the example of what to strive for?

I can post some pics later tonight. However, if you wanted the best overall lens of this group, my recommendation is the 16-85mm. I used it as my general purpose walking around lens. It's got a good overall range, from very wide at 16mm to 85mm on the zoom. It also has VR, vibration reduction built into the lens, which will prevent some blur from hand shake. It's also the best quality lens of the group, and therefore the most expensive. In photography, the lens is probably more important than the camera body itself, but a D80 is not an entry level SLR. Neither is it a pro camera body, but you can get some great pics with it once you master it. The 50mm f1.8 lens is great for low light situations. As said before, since it's a fixed focal length, there is no zoom, but it's still a great lens. That lens is considered one of nikon's best buys, because they are so good for a little over $100 brand new. $100 is incredibly cheap for a good f/1.8 lens. By comparison, nikkor's 50mm f/1.4 will cost about $350 and it's considered pro quality and the 85mm f/1.4 will cost about $1100 new.

Frank Law
03-05-2010, 11:52 AM
Did you go to Hair Club for Men? Just kidding.

Thanks for posting the differences. I will see where I am $$ wise after tomorrow (may be making another purchase :lol:) and see about researching this camera further.

MrBlah
03-05-2010, 11:53 AM
I did not want to scare him with the price on that 16-85mm

Sanchez
03-05-2010, 12:04 PM
Did you go to Hair Club for Men? Just kidding.

Not my head. :D


I did not want to scare him with the price on that 16-85mm

I say go straight for the best lens. If he gets serious at all, he'll want to buy one eventually anyway. And if not, these lenses hold their value extremely well, and he can probably sell it for what he's paying now.

roadlizard
03-05-2010, 12:07 PM
I did not want to scare him with the price on that 16-85mm

I understand that. I was trying to make a point that the lens is just as important, if not more, than the quality of the camera body.

roadlizard
03-05-2010, 12:16 PM
Here's a few samples with the 16-85mm lens:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v336/busaben/West%20Texas/_DSC0073-2009-04-07at19-17-13.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v336/busaben/West%20Texas/_DSC0034-2009-04-07at11-21-58.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v336/busaben/West%20Texas/_DSC0207-2009-04-08at18-40-06.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v336/busaben/West%20Texas/_DSC0019-2009-04-10at07-37-38.jpg

highside
03-05-2010, 12:34 PM
The number of pixels really only affects the maximum size you can blow the image up to. The lens is the most important variable in the mix. A good lens on a D80 will yield better pictures than a crappy lens on a D3X.

Frank Law
03-05-2010, 12:34 PM
Those are sweet. I am definitely interested. Let me see what shakes out tomorrow with a couple things and I will be in touch.

highside
03-05-2010, 12:37 PM
a steady hand, lots of practice, and with digital the trick is take hundreds of shots, they are free, it's not like you have to develop film, so take LOTS of pictures instead of one or two

...and never underestimate the importance of.......post processing! You can do wonders to an image (and many if not most pros do) with Photoshop or similar software in terms of sharpening, enhancing color, correcting exposure, etc.

roadlizard
03-05-2010, 12:55 PM
...and never underestimate the importance of.......post processing! You can do wonders to an image (and many if not most pros do) with Photoshop or similar software in terms of sharpening, enhancing color, correcting exposure, etc.

What do you use? I use Aperture for my bulk editing, but I'm trying to learn some photoshop for those things that aperture can't do.

roadlizard
03-05-2010, 01:08 PM
Here's a few images taken with the 50mm f/1.8. I took these 3 years ago, when I was new to the camera. I had a friend who was fighting his first MMA fight, and I was lucky enough to be allowed to take pics ringside.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v336/busaben/Ethan%20fight%20night/DSC_0014.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v336/busaben/Ethan%20fight%20night/DSC_0016.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v336/busaben/Ethan%20fight%20night/DSC_0119.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v336/busaben/Ethan%20fight%20night/DSC_0149.jpg

roadlizard
03-05-2010, 01:30 PM
Okay, I know that's enough pics, but I just wanted to post a few more. These were taken with the D80 and a 70-300mm VR lens at Road Atlanta.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v336/busaben/Motorcycle%20Racing/_DSC0289-2008-06-29at12-04-55.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v336/busaben/Motorcycle%20Racing/_DSC0012-2008-06-29at12-52-05.jpg

Frank Law
03-05-2010, 01:42 PM
looks amazing.

Ibleedgreen
03-05-2010, 06:52 PM
Great deal for a good setup.


a steady hand, lots of practice, and with digital the trick is take hundreds of shots, they are free, it's not like you have to develop film, so take LOTS of pictures instead of one or two

+1


...and never underestimate the importance of.......post processing! You can do wonders to an image (and many if not most pros do) with Photoshop or similar software in terms of sharpening, enhancing color, correcting exposure, etc.

+1

I'm super stoked, last month I got my first pictures published in a magazine for an article I did. If anybody get ATV Rider check me out...

The lens is everything!

highside
03-06-2010, 08:32 AM
What do you use? I use Aperture for my bulk editing, but I'm trying to learn some photoshop for those things that aperture can't do.

Photoshop CS 8 - an older version. You can do most anything with it. I've only scratched the surface as I've never taken a formal course on it but its not that difficult to grasp.

TarzanMan
03-07-2010, 08:40 AM
The short answer is that, yes, you will get great shots with this setup. Megapixels aren't really that important. Lenses make the most difference. A 6 MP SLR with a quality lens will take far better shots than a 10 MP point-and-shoot with a crappy lens. Photography is one area where you really get what you pay for.
Here's an example. Two shots taken with my Canon 30D using two lenses. The first lens is an inexpensive Tamron, and the second lens is a top-of-the-line Canon L series.
The expensive lens is noticeably sharper.

You don't always get what you pay for. Canon L lenses are often 2–3 times the price of their Tamron/Tokina/Sigma versions. A perfect example of Canon not being worth the premium is the Canon 17-55 f/2.8 ($1000) vs the Tamron 17-55 f/2.8 ($400). There is barely (if any) any difference at all in image quality.


You're doing it the smart way. When the replacement for the D700 comes out, the D700 will be available for a $1000 less. Eventually, I think Canon and Nikon both will put FX sensors in all of their cameras.
What is an FX sensor? Do you mean an full frame sensor? If so, you're wrong.... Canon has a big line up of less-expensive lenses that only work on 1.6x crop sensor cameras. Many photographers don't need a full frame sensor for the kind of work they do. I think 1.6x is here to stay as it offers comparable image quality at around half the price.


Photoshop CS 8 - an older version. You can do most anything with it. I've only scratched the surface as I've never taken a formal course on it but its not that difficult to grasp.

I think you mean Photoshop CS. There isn't a "Photoshop CS 8". After "Adobe Photoshop 7" (one of the best versions, imo) they renamed the program to "Adobe Photoshop CS". As of this posting, the current version is "Adobe Photoshop CS 4". I'm not trying to be smart alecky.... I just don't want someone to go looking for "CS 8" and wonder why they can't find it.

Frank Law
03-07-2010, 09:04 AM
I would love to buy this camera but I bought a toy this weekend and have to replenish my toy $$ before I can make a purchase. Once I sell my GSXR 750 I will be in the market if you still have it.

roadlizard
03-07-2010, 12:50 PM
[QUOTE=TarzanMan;4235]You don't always get what you pay for. Canon L lenses are often 2–3 times the price of their Tamron/Tokina/Sigma versions. A perfect example of Canon not being worth the premium is the Canon 17-55 f/2.8 ($1000) vs the Tamron 17-55 f/2.8 ($400). There is barely (if any) any difference at all in image quality.

If you're going to tell me that Tamron/Tokina/Sigma can match the best Nikkor glass, well I'm going to respectfully disagree. Sure, not all Nikkor or Canon lenses are great lenses, but the best Nikkor/Canon lenses do cost more, and they are worth the money if you want the best possible image quality. You can find individual lenses that are not worth the extra money, but the best of Canon/Nikkor can't be matched by those three. Of course, you have to do your research and read all the reviews from the professionals to determine which lenses are the best, and not just pick one because it's the most expensive.


What is an FX sensor? Do you mean an full frame sensor? If so, you're wrong.... Canon has a big line up of less-expensive lenses that only work on 1.6x crop sensor cameras. Many photographers don't need a full frame sensor for the kind of work they do. I think 1.6x is here to stay as it offers comparable image quality at around half the price.

Yes, I'm talking about a full frame censor. You can tell me I'm wrong, but I'm merely speculating about moving full frame sensors down to lower-end slr's. You can't predict the future either, so it's sort of hard to say which one of us is going to be right. I'm speculating on long term future, not now or even 3 years down the road. Of course, a full frame sensor costs a lot more, they're newer, and the manufacturer's are stil recouping their development costs. They will come down on price once they've been out a while, just like any other electronics, i.e., bluray dvd's, big screen lcd tv's, etc.

roadlizard
03-07-2010, 12:55 PM
I would love to buy this camera but I bought a toy this weekend and have to replenish my toy $$ before I can make a purchase. Once I sell my GSXR 750 I will be in the market if you still have it.

Not a problem. If I don't get any responses here, I will move to craigslist and fleabay. I would prefer to sell to someone on the board, but that's not always possible.

TarzanMan
03-10-2010, 04:57 PM
If you're going to tell me that Tamron/Tokina/Sigma can match the best Nikkor glass, well I'm going to respectfully disagree. Sure, not all Nikkor or Canon lenses are great lenses, but the best Nikkor/Canon lenses do cost more, and they are worth the money if you want the best possible image quality. You can find individual lenses that are not worth the extra money, but the best of Canon/Nikkor can't be matched by those three. Of course, you have to do your research and read all the reviews from the professionals to determine which lenses are the best, and not just pick one because it's the most expensive.

Except for 2 or 3 lenses Canon's line-up... yes. I will tell you that Tamron/Sigma/Tokina can match the image quality. Nikon and Canon aren't the only people who make good lenses... nor are Tamron/Sigma/Tokina..... there are a lot of other companies that make very good optics that make DSLRs look like pinhole cameras in comparison.


Yes, I'm talking about a full frame censor. You can tell me I'm wrong, but I'm merely speculating about moving full frame sensors down to lower-end slr's. You can't predict the future either, so it's sort of hard to say which one of us is going to be right. I'm speculating on long term future, not now or even 3 years down the road. Of course, a full frame sensor costs a lot more, they're newer, and the manufacturer's are stil recouping their development costs. They will come down on price once they've been out a while, just like any other electronics, i.e., bluray dvd's, big screen lcd tv's, etc.
You're absolutely wrong for one glaringly obvious reason. Fill rate. Sports photographers who need camera bodies that are capable 8+ fps bursts won't find any full frame cameras that can do that at full resolution. It just takes the cameras too long to write all that data into the buffer.

Then there's price concerns. Crop sensors are way cheaper because they require a lot less material.

Frank Law
03-10-2010, 05:00 PM
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