Ducati Hypermotard 1100?

[nhs]

Thought this thread would go nicely with my "thinking of quitting riding" thread ;)

Have recently become semi-intrigued by said bike. Particularly in EVO SP guise. Anyone on here have experience with the bike? Seems a tad more sensible than my current ride, but not by much. Like the idea of a more upright seating position, though am worried that it's a bit too "hooligan". Am wondering whether this thing can even be ridden sensibly.

I ride mostly around town, with occassional visits to the mountains. This thing would be just for fun. Am also considering the Speed Triple.

Any and all thoughts appreciated.

[bigb996]

well if the 1100 is to much, they just released a 796 that puts out 80hp and 56ft/tq which would be much easier to contain. ITs also is lighter than the 1100 at 366lbs dry. Its 9999.00 msrp. I want to ride one badly, looks identical to the 1100.

[A&A Motorsports]

I think that is one of the sexiest bikes on the planet. I would love to get my hands on one of those.
I say go with the 1100. :)

[SquireSCA]

I had a Hypermotard 1100 a year or so ago. Really fun bike, handles well, perfect for all around street use. Power is great, but the air-cooled twin does lack a top end punch. Has an abundance of low end and midrange, but once you get over 6500rpm, the power drops off noticeably.

Fuel range sucks, although my Streetfighter is not much better. But expect your fuel light to come on around the 80 mile mark, depending on how you ride.

It's quite tall, so depending on your inseam, you may or may not like it.

Airbox is a real pain to get to, but most other things on the bike are pretty accessible.

It is a really fun bike, I think that you will like it, but only a test ride will confirm that. Go up to NPR Ducati in Watkinsville and Paul will help you out.

[wbeck257]

Aircooled, and the fact it has half the amount of valves that your streetfighter has is why it doesn't have top-end.

[SquireSCA]

Aircooled, and the fact it has half the amount of valves that your streetfighter has is why it doesn't have top-end.

Wow, I had no idea that was the reason. /end sarcasm

Exactly. So like I said, abundance of power in the bottom and mid, but top end falls down fast. I actually preferred the motor of the S2R1000 better, as it was a little more rev happy and made the same peak HP.

[bigb996]

id like to know how the 796 rides myself. I think my next bike will be a naked style and the hyper, z1000, and street or speed tripple will be in the lineup of choices.

[SquireSCA]

id like to know how the 796 rides myself. I think my next bike will be a naked style and the hyper, z1000, and street or speed tripple will be in the lineup of choices.

The 796 is a good bike, the issue will be the suspension for larger riders. The front forks are not adjustable, at all. Not even preload. The rear shock has some basics adjustments that can be made, but that is about it.

The 1100 is only 2 grand more, but it gets better brakes, much nicer suspension and quite a bit more power.

[chance]

Ive ridden the 1100, it was neat, but personally i think i would like the speed triple more (havent ridden one yet)

[SquireSCA]

The Hyper is cool for a lot of reasons. If you just want a naked bike with stump-pulling torque, easy to maintain, handles like is on rails, etc... then it is a great choice. Not having to worry about a cooling system(just one more thing to break, require periodic maintenance or a flush if you want to go to the track) is kinda cool. It certainly turns heads. It is very, and I mean VERY comfortable.

There is lots to like about the Hyper. But, if you are a horsepower junkie, then it will leave you wanting. I don't mean that it has more power than a person needs. I mean that if you LIKE more power, it will feel weak.

If you really want a brute of a naked twin without going too exotic, I would suggest a Tuono, a Super Duke, a Speed Triple or a Streetfighter.

I have had both the hyper and now the Streetfighter, and I also had a Super Duke. Never tried a Triple or a Tuono, but Troy loves his.

Personally, I like the Streetfighter best. Almost 150hp at the wheel, weights barely more than a 600, has almost race-grade brakes, the list goes on. The only downside is cost. You can pick up a Hyper 1100 and with the money you save you can get an exhaust, new ECU, some carbon and levers and still be cheaper than the base model Streetfighter.

But if you are the kinda guy that will buy a bike and keep it for several years, then the Streetfighter and its cost might be worth it to you. It's the most fun bike I have ever owned, and I have owned a few...

[Mongo]

I absolutely love my Hyper. Like Dave said, mileage per tank stock sucks but there is a larger tank out there that is an easy enough install (NPR can do it before you pick up the bike even) that will take it from 2 to 6 or so gallons. I've got the S and it was worth it for the bling for me but the performance increase is minimal compared to the regular model. I've got Termi dual slip ons and the airbox is gone due to the larger tank (comes with pod filters).

All in all I doubt I'll ever sell this one, it's just the perfect bike to have in the basement for any kind of run be it from Canton to the Vortex or up to the mountains. It's not perfect at anything but does everything really well. As far as hooligan, that's totally up to your right wrist, I've never done a wheelie (don't know how) or anything else hooligan like on it because that's just not how I ride.

[magnetnerd]

I wasn't impressed with it when I did a demo ride on one, honestly. The power just wasn't there. Hell, I wasn't even impressed with power on the low end.

[SquireSCA]

Also, don't count out the Monster 1100. Same motor, still naked, but a little more sporty and not as funky looking.

The older Monsters were solid bikes, but the handling could get a little sketchy if you pushed them really hard. The newer ones look a lot more modern, and the handling is better.

If I was choosing between the Hyper 1100 and the Monster 1100, I would take the Monster, but that is just my opinion. If you want the funky look and stupid power, get the Streetfighter. :-)

[KTM Rider]

I had a lot of fun demo riding a tweaked S when they first came out. Almost bought one. In the end I knew I would get into too much trouble on it given its propensity to keep the front tire airborne. Rode a standard and stock model again not too long ago and I have to say still it is a very focused but fun bike that would get me in trouble. Not going to be doing too much distance riding due to both the fuel range and the windblast but what little riding you do on one will be filled with ear to ear grins, relatively pain free miles from the friendly ergos and good ducati music to the ears. The advantage to this bike instead of the Street fighter is the mtc costs are A LOT less. Only superhumans like Dave can use all the extra HP the fighter makes to their advantage...on the street no less.:up:

[SquireSCA]

I wasn't impressed with it when I did a demo ride on one, honestly. The power just wasn't there. Hell, I wasn't even impressed with power on the low end.

Well, like anything you have to ride it and see how it appeals to you. The hyper tends to produce a love it or hate it response without much middle ground.

As far as it not having power down low, I disagree. It has gobs of it. It all depends on what kind of bike you are coming off of and how you ride. But look at the 4k-6k range, where you spend most of your time on the street. The HP is not crazy impressive, but it has gobs of torque from as little as 4k RPM:

http://pic20.picturetrail.com/VOL1600/824011/10370588/388232298.jpg

As a street bike around town, or up in the tight twisties in the mountains, having that kind of thrust so easily accessible is a good thing.

[nhs]

Thanks for all the thoughtful comments guys.

As for my height - I'm about 6'2" with a 33" inseam, so a taller bike would be good. My legs often cramp on the R6, which is tiresome. I'm not sure I'd miss the top end rush of my current bike, as I rarely see ridiculous speeds - so lots of low and mid-range torgue would probably be more fun.

I don't think the Monster's for me - loved the look of the previous generation Monsters, but the current generation doesn't do much for me. Plus, and perhaps more importantly, they feel cramped. I think the Streetfighter's fantastic, but it would increase my insurance premiums 160%, i.e. I'd be paying nearly 3X my current rate with Progressive (and I don't want to switch to State Farm). Ironically a new VMAX would result in my premium going down, as would a new Speed Triple. But Ducatis tend to increase my premium - including the HM, though that increase is a bit more reasonable.

I think I'm going to have to sit on one as a next step - to see how it feels.

[SquireSCA]

Only superhumans like Dave can use all the extra HP the fighter makes to their advantage...on the street no less.:up:

Goober. LOL

Has nothing to do with need, or being able to use 100% of the motor on the street or on the track. Part of the enjoyment of riding for a lot of people is the acceleration, that adrenaline rush. The Streetfighter has 90% of the comfort of the Hyper, it has amazing handling, and when you add to it that it makes almost double the HP, it makes for a really exhilarating ride.

I am not skilled enough to make full use of a Porsche 911 Turbo, but it would still be more fun to me to drive than a Toyota Camry. haha

[SquireSCA]

Yeah, the Monster 1100 is more cramped than the Hyper, for sure.

My bikes all carry about the same insurance cost. I pay a little over $500 a year for the Streetfighter, and that is with two speeding tickets in the past 4 years and two bike accidents. State Farm really does have great rates.

But to each his own. Go ride a Hyper up at NPR. Paul has a demo bike and you can take it out on a nice 20 minute ride on a back country road with some decent twisties and really get a feel for it. Just bring your checkbook, because after you ride it you will probably want to take it home. hehe

[KTM Rider]

Agreed:up: although the gap between a Hyper S/Streetfighter is a bit less wide than that between a 911 Turbo and a Camry. Between a 911 Turbo and a GT3, a more apt analogy with not only the GT3 making less power than the Turbo but it also coming from the same factory, I would take the GT3 every time and in the hands of most drivers, the GT3 would be as fast if not faster than the Turbo in the mtns or on a road course. If straight line acceleration is what you are after, then yes a Turbo, a Streetfighter, etc will be faster than either of the other two however there are many other options still which will leave either of those winners in the respective classes in the dust.

[nhs]

I pay a little over $500 a year for the Streetfighter, and that is with two speeding tickets in the past 4 years and two bike accidents. State Farm really does have great rates.

Holy moley. Maybe I need to reconsider. I didn't want to switch because I had 1 at-fault accident last year, and a couple of speeding tickets, and SF would only quote if I switched my house and cars to them as well. But I currently pay $1K a year with Progressive for the R6, and a Streetfighter would've cost $2.6K. If it's not top secret, would you mind PMing me the name of your SF agent? I spoke to one last year, and the guy was a total dweeb - only communicated via a secretary, which put me off.

[SquireSCA]

Agreed:up: although the gap between a Hyper S/Streetfighter is a bit less wide than that between a 911 Turbo and a Camry. Between a 911 Turbo and a GT3, a more apt analogy with not only the GT3 making less power than the Turbo but it also coming from the same factory, I would take the GT3 every time and in the hands of most drivers, the GT3 would be as fast if not faster than the Turbo in the mtns or on a road course. If straight line acceleration is what you are after, then yes a Turbo, a Streetfighter, etc will be faster than either of the other two however there are many other options still which will leave either of those winners in the respective classes in the dust.

The way I see it, is I have all the handling, comfort, braking and stuff that I could ever want. And when I want to go stupid fast or have a 70mph power wheelie in second, it's there. LOL

[SquireSCA]

Holy moley. Maybe I need to reconsider. I didn't want to switch because I had 1 at-fault accident last year, and a couple of speeding tickets, and SF would only quote if I switched my house and cars to them as well. But I currently pay $1K a year with Progressive for the R6, and a Streetfighter would've cost $2.6K. If it's not top secret, would you mind PMing me the name of your SF agent? I spoke to one last year, and the guy was a total dweeb - only communicated via a secretary, which put me off.

Progressive sucks IMHO. When I bought a CBR1000rr, Progressive quoted me $1800 per year. I was married, owned a home, 33 years old, never had an accident and the last speeding ticket that I had was in West Virgina, 11 years prior. I called State Farm, who I had my house and car through, and they gave me better coverage with lower deductables, for $445 a year.

[Mongo]

Progressive was good for the Hyper and the Harley, added the Buell and they got real stupid real quick, went to Geico with all of them and pay only a little more than I was for the other two.

[KTM Rider]

The way I see it, is I have all the handling, comfort, braking and stuff that I could ever want. And when I want to go stupid fast or have a 70mph power wheelie in second, it's there. LOL

I suspect the Hyper could do all that as well but you might need the clutch to bring the front up at speed. I would buy the Hyper solely because I could do the valve adjustments myself whereas I couldnt on the 4 valver. Of course if either mechanical ability or $ arent brought into the equation then clearly the Streetfighter is a higher end and faster bike with more appeal.

[nhs]

Dave - thanks again for SF contact details. I called your agent - very friendly. Unfortunately, with my 2 recent tickets and an accident in the past 3 years, the insurance premiums were much higher. They wanted 50% more for my cars, and more for the house too - both currently with Travelers. So I didn't even bother to check on MC rates - would've had to be free to make financial sense.

[magnetnerd]

Well, like anything you have to ride it and see how it appeals to you. The hyper tends to produce a love it or hate it response without much middle ground.

As far as it not having power down low, I disagree. It has gobs of it. It all depends on what kind of bike you are coming off of and how you ride. But look at the 4k-6k range, where you spend most of your time on the street. The HP is not crazy impressive, but it has gobs of torque from as little as 4k RPM:


As a street bike around town, or up in the tight twisties in the mountains, having that kind of thrust so easily accessible is a good thing.

I'm coming off a Bandit 1200 which is known for having copious amounts of torque down low. Maybe if I were more acquainted with the hyper I'd feel differently about it; pushing a demo bike isn't something I'm terribly comfortable with. However, either I wasn't powering it in the right RPM range for the bike or it just didn't want to power wheelie for me.

Um not that I tried. Newp.

Edit: You know, the more I think about it, the less impressed I am with the 1100. And the more impressed I am with a friggin BANDIT, a plain lookin' standard bike that sells for a fraction of the cost of a ducati.

I guess the brand name really moves the inventory on some stuff, for some people.

[SquireSCA]

I'm coming off a Bandit 1200 which is known for having copious amounts of torque down low. Maybe if I were more acquainted with the hyper I'd feel differently about it; pushing a demo bike isn't something I'm terribly comfortable with. However, either I wasn't powering it in the right RPM range for the bike or it just didn't want to power wheelie for me.

Um not that I tried. Newp.

Edit: You know, the more I think about it, the less impressed I am with the 1100. And the more impressed I am with a friggin BANDIT, a plain lookin' standard bike that sells for a fraction of the cost of a ducati.

I guess the brand name really moves the inventory on some stuff, for some people.

Well, to some extent yes, but there are differences. The Bandit weighs at least 100lbs more than the Hyper. The Hyper's brakes can also stand you on your nose with 1 or 2 fingers with ease. It also handles a lot better.

Yeah, part of the price and allure is that it is a Ducati, but that isn't the whole story...

[nhs]

Went to a dealer today to take a closer look at the HM. I really liked the ergos, but worry that I wasn't blown away by its aesthetics - particularly the dirt-bike looking front end. Don't get me wrong, it's a cool bike, but I think I need to like its looks more than I do in order to pull the trigger. So I'm putting it on a backburner for now, and instead reconsidering a Speed Triple. I like its looks, and ergos, but have yet to ride one...

[SquireSCA]

Went to a dealer today to take a closer look at the HM. I really liked the ergos, but worry that I wasn't blown away by its aesthetics - particularly the dirt-bike looking front end. Don't get me wrong, it's a cool bike, but I think I need to like its looks more than I do in order to pull the trigger. So I'm putting it on a backburner for now, and instead reconsidering a Speed Triple. I like its looks, and ergos, but have yet to ride one...

Did you get a chance to ride it around?

I was not crazy about the looks at first either, but it was so much fun to ride that you get used to it and actually start to like it more as time goes on.

The triple is a nice bike though. It is definitely faster. And arguably it looks better in most ways.

[bigb996]

check out the street tripple R if your gonna look at the speed tripple. a little more practical power and a lower price tag.

[nhs]

No, unfortunately not. I went to Atlanta Motorworld not NPR (AMW is very close). As much I love their service department (great bunch of guys), I'm not a fan of their sales operation. They're knowledgeable enough and helpful when prodded, but getting someone to show interest is like pulling teeth. May have something to do with the fact that they've shown me a bike or two in the past, and I've always bought elsewhere! So if I really wanted one I'd probably go to NPR to try and buy, and then get it serviced at AMW. But I digress...

Am more inclined to try to the S3 - prefer its looks, though it may not be as much fun to ride. As a bonus it'd be cheaper to insure (and maintain, perhaps). But first I've got to convince my wife that it's time for another bike - this would mark the 3rd in just over a year, so she's not wild about the idea.

[nhs]

check out the street tripple R if your gonna look at the speed tripple. a little more practical power and a lower price tag.

I'm familiar with the bike - gets great reviews, looks and feels a lot like a Speed Triple, but if I go the Triumph route I think I'd have to go "whole hog". I've also heard people say that the Street Triple feels smaller and lighter - having sat on both in a showroom (perhaps that's my mistake) I can't say I noticed.

[magnetnerd]

Well, to some extent yes, but there are differences. The Bandit weighs at least 100lbs more than the Hyper. The Hyper's brakes can also stand you on your nose with 1 or 2 fingers with ease. It also handles a lot better.

Yeah, part of the price and allure is that it is a Ducati, but that isn't the whole story...

Dude. The Bandit is a pig of a bike. It outweighs MOST bikes that people on these forums ride by a good bit. And yeah, the Bandit's suspension is incredibly cushy from the factory and the front brakes aren't insane. Those factors in mind, of course the hyper is going to handle better.

However, I believe I commented on the power delivery being more impressive on the Bandit than the Hyper. So...

[Georgiacbr]

Dude. The Bandit is a pig of a bike. It outweighs MOST bikes that people on these forums ride by a good bit. And yeah, the Bandit's suspension is incredibly cushy from the factory and the front brakes aren't insane. Those factors in mind, of course the hyper is going to handle better.

However, I believe I commented on the power delivery being more impressive on the Bandit than the Hyper. So...


Yea I somewhat agree on the power delivery from last year's demo ride too. Overall it seemed to suffered a little bit but once it's on the right setting on RPM it seemed fine. Lower end power on the low gear's seemed a little different to me too but I liked the bike overall. It took a little wile to get used to the riding postion but i liked the more upright design vs my current sportbike.

[Peteyglad]

Dude. The Bandit is a pig of a bike. It outweighs MOST bikes that people on these forums ride by a good bit.

He has a lightweight bike. My bike outweighs the bandit by 100 pounds:)

Back on topic: I like the looks of the speed triple vs the Hyper. But I have never rode either, so can't make a comparison there. But if I am spending that much on a bike, I want to really dig the looks of it.