This is why guns are important

[SquireSCA]

This is not specific to a gun, so let's leave it here rather than the firearm section, as more people will see it here and can discuss it and ponder it.

Last night, coming home from bike night, Donna and I notice a lot of police activity blocking off a sub-division about 4 miles from mine off of New Hope Rd, across from the supermarket we go to.

Turns out there was a nice stabbing. Two men who pose as security alarm salesmen, go door to door and then force their way in to assault and rob you. Don't have all the details yet, but this is one of the reasons why we own guns, and why there is one on or near me 24/7, whether out in public or at home.

I have heard many times, the arguments of "What can happen? Why would you need that? Isn't that a bit paranoid?"

That person that had two "Salesman" break into his home probably thought the same thing right up to the point that he/she is fending off a knife attack and wishing, "Damn it, I wish I had a gun to protect myself"...

Danger can come at any time, any place. You can either take a few steps to help be ready for it, or just trust to dumb luck that you will somehow make it out alive if your number comes up.

It is not paranoia to acknowledge that our world isn't always nice, and bad things happen to good people. You can either exercise your 2nd Amendment right to protect yourself and your family, or, you can take your chances and hope the EMT's arrive before you bleed out onto the floor.

When I got home, I texted one of my good friends who is a Gwinnett cop, asking him if he knew what was going on there. He texted back that he was on the scene actually. He then told me to start carrying at home, and then told me briefly what had happened. When I get a chance to talk to him on the phone I will get more details.

Someone the other day asked about a home protection weapon and some said shotgun. That's great, except most people don't walk around carrying a shotgun when they answer the door. But a handgun, even a pocket .380 could be a life saver(literally) and takes very little effort to just have in a belt holster like you carry your cell phone, or just slipped into a pocket...

Just food for thought.

[Seca]

Scientific fact - 100% of all home invasions happen at home.

[SquireSCA]

Scientific fact - 100% of all home invasions happen at home.

Fact #2 - At every violent attack, the victim is always present.

[BiggsRR07]

I agree with you 100% sir. And whats scary too is I live right off of New hope literally 3 minutes from that shopping center. What happens when they hit the next subdivision...mine?!

[marco427]

Actually, I have a number of potential home invasion scenarios covered: .357 S&W in bedside drawer, short barreled 12 gauge pump (3" OO buck loads) in a closet about 10 feet away, AR 15 with 30 round mag in the same closet. Who the hell are you calling paranoid?

[Dave1kRR]

Fact#3: If a criminal knows a homeowner has a gun, they will not try anything. Example: Kennesaw requiring all homeowners have a gun in the house.

[willr1]

Fact #4- When seconds count, police are minutes away

[SlowMotion]

We have a lab and a German Shepherd that answer our door. When the doorbell rings they tend to jump down the stairs and pounce against the door. This has causes many a salesman to back off the front stoop. But if that doesn't deter them than the pistol in my back pocket will. If I don't know you I'm answering the door with my gun. I have even been know to greet a couple of the neighbors with the gun but that's a whole other story.:D

[GSX1R]

Fact#3: If a criminal knows a homeowner has a gun, they will not try anything. Example: Kennesaw requiring all homeowners have a gun in the house.

Is this for real, seriously or just a one-liner? I understand your points that you've made. I don't agree with taking a life but in regards to burglars breaking into your home with the intent to do harm and whatever it takes to get what they want, well they get what they get/deserve; however you want to put it. Also when it comes to protecting your family all bets are off. I don't believe anyone deserves to die or lose their life over material possessions in any case, but when it comes to doing harm to an individual and intruding into someone's home is another story entirely. I use to have a Glock .40 and miss it at times, but I do believe that once 'your number is up/called' per-say, there is nothing you can do about it. It's your time and no weapon or amount of ammo will change that.

[Alilyoyo1]

I have a 38 and he's got a shot gun...
it was a comment i heard in FL all the time...where gun laws are also pretty lenient....that if someone KNOWS that the victim will have a gun they'll move on....they tried to bring it up to allow weapons in banks....
I believe 100% in protecting my home....and have carried it on the bike when traveling alone....

[GSX1R]

I heard maybe in Texas or for firearms laws in Texas that a gun carrying society is a friendly society and I believe that to an large extent.

[Bacon]

I moved out of Clayton County where the crime rate is high. I have a family including my three year old to protect so I carry mine everywhere.

[nhs]

Look, if you're going to do the whole "firearms thing", at least do it properly: always carry c4/semtex and remote detonator. When the perps show up, you lob the semtex at them (it should stick - with a bit of effort), hide behind a wall and hit the little red button. KABOOM! Threat eliminated. Alternatively, you could park a Howitzer in your hallway, and have the barrel pointed at the front door which you could open with a string to avoid your own head being blow off. Admittedly, neither of these solutions are particularly portable in public. So when moving about outside your house (which you may want to fit with panic-shutters, bullet proof windows and bomb-proof doors) I suggest either a Crocodile Dundee-sized knife down the front of your pants (if you have room) and/or a crossbow over your shoulder with explosive tips. And don't forget the ammo belts slung across each shoulder for added tough-guy looks!

:)

[petrel800]

One thing I will add is, all the guns in the world won't save you if your head is up your ass. Criminals look for easy targets. Situational awareness is always your best friend. That and an M4 will keep you safe.

[Karl Hungus]

See, that's what these alarm companies do. They send out a couple of guys to beat up a few homeowners, and boom, the phone starts ringing off the hook.

[Dave1kRR]

Is this for real, seriously or just a one-liner? I understand your points that you've made. I don't agree with taking a life but in regards to burglars breaking into your home with the intent to do harm and whatever it takes to get what they want, well they get what they get/deserve; however you want to put it. Also when it comes to protecting your family all bets are off. I don't believe anyone deserves to die or lose their life over material possessions in any case, but when it comes to doing harm to an individual and intruding into someone's home is another story entirely. I use to have a Glock .40 and miss it at times, but I do believe that once 'your number is up/called' per-say, there is nothing you can do about it. It's your time and no weapon or amount of ammo will change that.

Yeah, I really don't know your point of this response. I will protect myself and my family no matter what. Being that I have four firearms in my house and one stays on me, I'm taking precaution. Since the tread started stating facts, I thought I'd give one. If you look at home burglary statistics, Kennesaw is the LOWEST in the state because of the city law mandating all homeowners to have a gun in the house. THAT WAS MY POINT, SERIOUSLY. I don't really think it was a stupid point as you tried to make it out to be a "one liner." I don't really think you read it correctly either. I didn't say ANYTHING about not killing a criminal if they break into your house. Just to be clear, the main point is: If a criminal knows there is a possiblity that at least ONE person is or may be carrying a gun in a home or say a restaurant (that doesn't openly prohibit concealed weapons) the less likely they will try to rob that establishment.

[Dave1kRR]

I heard maybe in Texas or for firearms laws in Texas that a gun carrying society is a friendly society and I believe that to an large extent.

See, this is exactly what I mean. Criminal detourant.

[Karl Hungus]

If you look at home burglary statistics, Kennesaw is the LOWEST in the state because of the city law mandating all homeowners to have a gun in the house.

I'd love to look at those statistics. Who is second lowest?

[Dave1kRR]

I'd love to look at those statistics. Who is second lowest?

I remember reading this in an AJC article because some people wanting to buy houses in Kennesaw didn't want to buy a gun. The journalist wrote about the benefits of homeowners having guns. I'll try to find it. I don't believe they had a list of top ten. I believe it stated Kennesaw has less than half the crime rate than the national avg.

heres a site that has crime stats as compared to national avg. 1st link is Kennesaw, the second is Marietta since its close to Kennesaw.
http://www.cityrating.com/citycrime.asp?city=Kennesaw&state=GA

http://www.cityrating.com/citycrime.asp?city=Marietta&state=GA

[Seca]

Fact#3: If a criminal knows a homeowner has a gun, they will not try anything. Example: Kennesaw requiring all homeowners have a gun in the house.


I'd love to look at those statistics. Who is second lowest?


I remember reading this in an AJC article because some people wanting to buy houses in Kennesaw didn't want to buy a gun. The journalist wrote about the benefits of homeowners having guns. I'll try to find it.

the law went into effect in 82 I believe. in 2005 kennesaw celebrated 25 years murder free. the crime rate was cut in half even with the population more than quadrupling.

[cjbez07]

the law went into effect in 82 I believe. in 2005 kennesaw celebrated 25 years murder free. the crime rate was cut in half even with the population more than quadrupling.

who needs guns when u get spears and blow darts...having a gun in the house is a good thing.. hopefully the government here wount turn into what happened back home(South Africa)... if your white your no longer aloud to have fire arms in home.. haha then people wonder why Johannesberg is top 10 every year for most crime citys in the world.. still got to get my gun, thinking about going with a a mossberg for the house ....

[winmutt]

Fact#3: If a criminal knows a homeowner has a gun, they will not try anything. Example: Kennesaw requiring all homeowners have a gun in the house.
That is incorrect.

[Dave1kRR]

That is incorrect.

That is incorrect

[GSX1R]

Yeah, I really don't know your point of this response. I will protect myself and my family no matter what. Being that I have four firearms in my house and one stays on me, I'm taking precaution. Since the tread started stating facts, I thought I'd give one. If you look at home burglary statistics, Kennesaw is the LOWEST in the state because of the city law mandating all homeowners to have a gun in the house. THAT WAS MY POINT, SERIOUSLY. I don't really think it was a stupid point as you tried to make it out to be a "one liner." I don't really think you read it correctly either. I didn't say ANYTHING about not killing a criminal if they break into your house. Just to be clear, the main point is: If a criminal knows there is a possiblity that at least ONE person is or may be carrying a gun in a home or say a restaurant (that doesn't openly prohibit concealed weapons) the less likely they will try to rob that establishment.

First off I wasn't trying to say or even imply that it was stupid, if so I would have said I think it was stupid. I'm not from the south and I always found it interesting of some of the mandates and laws that are on the books. With that said, you hear a lot of rumors and don't know what is actually true; therefore, I asked 'seriously/for real or is it a one-liner'? I personally think some are too sensitive or are easily offended when someone has a question about something they feel strongly about. Maybe that's you, I don't know you to say but that’s something I've noticed. So that was the point I'm trying to make.

I read the statements fine, I didn't say anyone stated anything, I just stated my opinion since the TONE seems to be protect to the extreme. I've been in a one-on-one situation in that regard and had to think and act under SERIOUS pressure. Many say and think they should and or could do things but when it comes to a head, it's usually a different story. Just to clarify, I'm talking about using restraint and also going full tilt. I'm a very calm mannered person and slow to anger and get offended but when it comes to my family my fuse is a bit shorter depending on the situation so opinions are just that to me.

In my statement about the Texas society, I said to an extent. I understand the intent of what the statement is trying to promote, that's why I said to a large extent. The other part of that is an armed society is also a very scary one and has the potential to for anarchy...self-justice. As you and I know there are a lot of people that should not have firearms, men and women that can't understand nor handle the responsibility of owning not to mention carrying a firearm. Mental stability is one thing, but personal and social maturity is another entirely.

[winmutt]

That is incorrect
Kennesaw still has burglaries, home invasions and homocides. Fewer than the national average but they still do. A gun in the house will not magically keep thugs at bay.

[Dave1kRR]

Kennesaw still has burglaries, home invasions and homocides. Fewer than the national average but they still do. A gun in the house will not magically keep thugs at bay.

Only 1 homicide.

[SquireSCA]

I don't think that too many people even know about the law, as it is not really enforced. There is no real mandate that you own a firearm. The law was put on the books so that anyone who wanted a gun had easy access and a "legal excuse" to purchase one if they needed it at the time.

It's not like the cops check or even care if you own a gun or not. The "mandate" is symbolic at best.

However, it is a nice area and does attract a better cross-section of society that I think leads to lower crime. Is it because the law says that people should own guns, or because a certain type of person moves there because they like that law and attitude?

The latter probably has more to do with the crime rates than anything...

[Seca]

I don't think that too many people even know about the law, as it is not really enforced. There is no real mandate that you own a firearm. The law was put on the books so that anyone who wanted a gun had easy access and a "legal excuse" to purchase one if they needed it at the time.

It's not like the cops check or even care if you own a gun or not. The "mandate" is symbolic at best.

However, it is a nice area and does attract a better cross-section of society that I think leads to lower crime. Is it because the law says that people should own guns, or because a certain type of person moves there because they like that law and attitude?

The latter probably has more to do with the crime rates than anything...

I agree. Plus they can not deny purchase of a home because someone doesn't want to own a gun or legally can not buy one.

[RogueElement]

Kennesaw still has burglaries, home invasions and homocides. Fewer than the national average but they still do. A gun in the house will not magically keep thugs at bay.

Less than half the national average in total crime committed. And like Dave said, only 1 homicide in the last 25 years.

[Quick-6]

Interesting read... I ma actually goin to the gun range to get training and insight on what fits me best to carry then the license and the hardware. Guns are like condoms.. You rather have it and not need , then to need it and not have it! And I plan on busting off!!!!!!

[johnm1117]

I don't answer my door unless I know your coming over.

[Kainedogg]

Fact # 5: Guns don't hurt, bullets do.

[Barton72]

Heard and said it hundreds of times, but its better to have it and not need it than to need it and not have it.

Edit: just saw that Quick already said this, but its a good way to be.