Biaggi got screwed ** SPOILER **

[csarge001]

I'm not a fan, but Race 2 at Monza...Biaggi's leading by about 5 seconds and straightened the esses. He eased back onto the track and continues. Now several other rider had already done this as they always do at Monza. His penalty was a drive through. Cost him seven places.

Good job to Laverty for doubling up.

[ugar-6]

Yep, can't stand the little prick but he did get screwed. I wonder how much of that was throw back from his little tuft with Melandri a few weeks ago? They'll never admit it but like you said, others went through there with no penalty. I am glad to see Laverty coming to is own now as well. I do wish Haga could have beaten Fabrizio to the line.

[THE MUFFIN MAN]

he got penalized for crossing the safety line after he ran off, not for running off and gaining an advantage. stiff penalty, but needed for safety's sake.

[johnnymac1981]

Yah Biagga got screwed bad. Wasnt his fault, granted it was a rookie mistake but to roll through him, that was some S.

[csarge001]

"he got penalized for crossing the safety line after he ran off, not for running off and gaining an advantage. stiff penalty, but needed for safety's sake."

I didn't see that, but the video coverage was not great. Thanks for clearing that up.

[roadkill]

You make it sound like they singled out Biaggi for "special treatment".......watch the first race.......Haga got a drive through. Looks like they were being consistent to me and were applying it to front runners instead of screwing with back markers.

[speedracer]

You make it sound like they singled out Biaggi for "special treatment".......watch the first race.......Haga got a drive through. Looks like they were being consistent to me and were applying it to front runners instead of screwing with back markers.

I think they did single him out. Yes in the 1st race harga had a ride through but he got that because he gained a position. That's not what happened with biaggi and even the announcers said it was wrong. He did what everyone else did when they ran straight in that corner.

[Barton72]

I can't stand the little prick. I would like to see how mad he was after this. Lol.

[THE MUFFIN MAN]

I can't stand the little prick. I would like to see how mad he was after this. Lol.buhahahah

[The Lazy Destroyer]

he got penalized for crossing the safety line after he ran off, not for running off and gaining an advantage. stiff penalty, but needed for safety's sake.

+1

Race direction's response to their penalty for Biaggi (http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=it&u=http://www.gpone.com/index.php/it/news/35-in-evidenza/3640-ciabatti-abbiamo-applicato-le-regole.html&ei=5x3HTcPUKorz0gGps9WiCA&sa=X&oi=translate&ct=result&resnum=1&ved=0CCMQ7gEwAA&prev=/search%3Fq%3Dhttp://www.gpone.com/index.php/it/news/35-in-evidenza/3640-ciabatti-abbiamo-applicato-le-regole.html%26hl%3Den%26safe%3Doff%26client%3Dfire fox-a%26hs%3D6fD%26rls%3Dorg.mozilla:en-US:official%26prmd%3Divns)

Apparently there was a riders meeting before the race about the correct re-entry for this particular instance, and Biaggi was not there for the meeting. The penalty was specific to him crossing the safety line.


The Race Direction punished the Aprilia Alitalia rider when he had more than a 5 second lead after he cut across the white line at the first corner chicane on lap 11. According to Marco Melandri, Biaggi didn’t attend the usual Thursday afternoon rider briefing meeting and apparently didn’t know that the Race Direction had advised all the riders that cutting would be severely punished if they didn’t immediately yield their position or slow down.

Not sure if Melandri is the best source tho but I could totally believe Biaggi skipping a meeting, he seems to skip anything else that he doesn't feel like doing (http://www.speedzilla.com/forums/663548-post1.html).

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[THE MUFFIN MAN]

explained in detail. MAX has no one to blame his usual arrogant self.

The key to the second race revolved around an incident that took place on Thursday. Monza's first chicane is always a problem at the classic Italian track, and the organizers are continually looking for solutions to two problems the chicane presents. The first is the first-lap collision, almost inevitable given that 20+ riders are trying to squeeze into a very tight chicane that has only one line through it. The solution - or rather, the way that the danger is mitigated - is by ensuring an escape route straight on, allowing riders to pick the bike up and skip the chicane entirely, rather than attempting to squeeze in where there is no room, and potentially causing a crash. That strategy often fails - as it did during race two, when Carlos Checa slammed his Althea Ducati into Jonathan Rea's Castrol Honda, bringing the Ulsterman down, taking Leon Haslam and Jakub Smrz along with him.
It also creates a secondary problem: that first chicane is so tight, and is approached at such high speed (over 320km/h, or some 200mph) that running straight on at the chicane almost automatically confers an advantage. Any obstacles placed in the way (such as straw bales) would present a danger to anyone hitting them in the event of a crash, and could also be knocked into the path of other riders exiting the chicane if a rider were to hit them by running straight on.
And so the Monza circuit and the event organizers came up with a solution (http://www.gpone.com/index.php/en/news/35-in-evidenza/3640-ciabatti-abbiamo-applicato-le-regole.html), a chicane consisting of white lines on the run off area, then a narrow path delineated by more white lines serving as the entrance to the track. The riders were told during the briefing on Thursday afternoon about the situation at chicane, and the rules which were to be observed should they find themselves going straight on at the chicane. Any rider going straight on three times during the race would be penalized with a ride-through penalty, a punishment applied to Noriyuki Haga during race one. Additionally, any rider not returning to the track via the appointed path (by following the white lines) would also be given a ride-through penalty.
One rider had not attended the briefing, however. That rider was Max Biaggi, and so when the Italian found himself running straight on at the chicane - despite sitting on a comfortable lead of nearly six seconds - he compounded the simple error (not braking in time) with a much more severe one (rejoining the race without following the correct procedure). Despite the fact that Biaggi gained little or no advantage, Race Direction had to apply the rules, and imposed a ride-through on the Italian, turning his 6-second lead into a 20-second deficit, and dropping him 11 places in the process. Biaggi had the opportunity at Monza to rake back 32 points from the championship leader Carlos Checa, but his lack of foresight in attending the rider briefing meant that he got less than half that.

[csarge001]

"explained in detail. MAX has no one to blame his usual arrogant self...."

Thanks for filling in the gaps. Maybe you should try out to be an announcer since neither of them had a clue. Your analysis also explains why Biaggi's team manager wasn't protesting.
Thanks.

[THE MUFFIN MAN]

"explained in detail. MAX has no one to blame his usual arrogant self...."

Thanks for filling in the gaps. Maybe you should try out to be an announcer since neither of them had a clue. Your analysis also explains why Biaggi's team manager wasn't protesting.
Thanks.wish i could take credit, but thats taken from a web article. i'll give the announcers a pass because they may not have been aware of the new rule, or didnt see him exit incorrectly.

[roadkill]

I can't stand the little prick. I would like to see how mad he was after this. Lol.

Wait until you meet his uncle.

[ugar-6]

Wait until you meet his uncle.

I'd bitch slap both their little arses all the way back to antiquity. Those two have some major Napoleon syndrome.

[Seca]

track day 101 - ALWAYS ATTEND THE RIDERS MEETING

[The Lazy Destroyer]

Wait until you meet his uncle.

I had totally forgotten about that :lol:
Slight anger problems?!

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