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wallypiper
03-25-2010, 09:59 AM
On my home puter running Windows 7, I'm having random problems with Firefox. It occasionally, but not frequently, cashes Windows. It frequently crashes itself although it's normally able to restore itself.
I just upgraded it to 3.6.something and it actually got worse. Windows wants to run it in XP SP2 compatibility mode. If I do that, it requires confirmation that it's allowed to modify the disk every time it starts, regardless of whether or not "run as administrator" is enabled.
There's a good bit of chatter about this on the Mozilla website but no solutions that work for me and some others also.
My preference is to NOT run it in XP mode and NOT run it as an administrator so I currently have it set to run "normal" again.
I don't want to turn UAC off. My wife loves the free trial games that various websites offer and I have given her a rule of thumb that any game that requires permission gets denied.
Any expertise in here?
TroyBoy30
03-25-2010, 10:04 AM
no issues on mine but my account is the admin i have no other accounts if thats what you mean by running it as an admin
SlimDizzleATL
03-25-2010, 10:16 AM
Wish I could help you Wally. Havent had any dealing with Windows at home since Vista (mac user now). I did have some problems with FF crashing for no apparent reason on my Mac. But 3.6 seemed to fix this. Have you tried Google Chrome?
been running 7 and FF for the last 6 months, have had zero issues. Just upgraded to the newest ver. of FF yesterday, still no issues. Must be you, Wally.
chkaotic
03-25-2010, 11:09 AM
Yeah I have no issues with FF3.6 either.. I actually have more probs with IE crashing when multiple pages are open. The only time I ever really have probs w/ FireFox are when I have like 10-15 pages open and it sucks down memory bad.. sometimes it will release it when I close the windows, sometimes it wont.. task manager cures that ailment tho and FF restores my previous windows w/ no problems.
Wally, when I have seen something like this happening, it has almost always been due to a virus on the computer causing the crashes. You can try a scanner to see if a virus exists but that will have limited results unless you scan from a bootable cd and not from the already infected OS.
Wally, when I have seen something like this happening, it has almost always been due to a virus on the computer causing the crashes. You can try a scanner to see if a virus exists but that will have limited results unless you scan from a bootable cd and not from the already infected OS.
I second that, run some scans on your computer.
wallypiper
03-26-2010, 08:24 AM
Regular full system scans with AVG. I'll have to dig in and see if AVG has a bootable disk scan option of some kind.
Using Chrome now, we'll see.
Only one user account on my computer and it is an administrator account but I have not turned UAC off entirely. I LIKE for my wife to get the warnings because of all the junk she hits on the internet. In WIN7 (maybe other versions) even being logged on as administrator doesn't eliminate the UAC prompts unless you turn them off. I don't get enough UAC prompts normally to bother me so I prefer to leave them on. My wife gets them all the time because of the game downloads. Of course, you have to allow whatever you're being warned about if you want the game to work so I'm not sure it does any good. But there's no point in having the computer sitting there if she can't use it for games. Basically games and mail is all she does with it.
TroyBoy30
03-26-2010, 08:26 AM
you should only get a UAC prompt the first time a new program runs. if you are using an administrator account of course, which there is no reason for you not to unless you are trying to limit a users rights
wallypiper
03-26-2010, 08:47 AM
User Account Control (UAC) is a feature in Windows that can help you stay in control of your computer by informing you when a program makes a change that requires administrator-level permission. UAC works by adjusting the permission level of your user account. If you’re doing tasks that can be done as a standard user, such as reading e‑mail, listening to music, or creating documents, you have the permissions of a standard user—even if you’re logged on as an administrator.
When changes are going to be made to your computer that require administrator-level permission, UAC notifies you. If you are an administrator, you can click Yes to continue.
It depends on UAC settings. Just being logged on as an admin doesn't turn them off.
TroyBoy30
03-26-2010, 09:42 AM
I havne't changed any settings in UAC and I only get one notification when using something for the first time or after a product update
wallypiper
03-26-2010, 10:08 AM
And I shouldn't get them from FF, but I do. So either a virus or FF itself is doing something that triggers the warning. I rarely get them from anything else. And if I don't let Windows put FF in XP mode, I don't get them from FF. So far, Chrome seems to be as useful as FF so I'll stick with it for a while. Some hints at the Mozilla set that it's Flash/Firefox together. I did have a lot of trouble with the Flash player for a while. It would not install from Adobe's website. Had to download the file and install it off line. Maybe it's a MS/Google/Adobe conspiracy.
http://i.zdnet.com/blogs/tin-foil-hat.jpg
NiceGuysFinishLast
03-26-2010, 12:27 PM
Last I read, the latest update to Firefox's flash player was causing lots of BSODs and crashes on WinXP (I think? may have been 7). That's when I switched to chrome, haven't looked back since.
wallypiper
03-26-2010, 01:02 PM
Yeah, I had that problem. Had to thoroughly expunge all previous versions and find a link to download a new version. That fixed it but it took some digging to find a link that didn't try to force an install over the web. That wouldn't work with FF.
Steve750
03-26-2010, 02:40 PM
I'm running 3.62 and have noticed quite a few crashes as of late.....Not Win 7, just FF. I hadn't thought too much about it but there must be something weird going on with FF.
Steve
SlimDizzleATL
03-26-2010, 03:36 PM
Chrome is what Firefox used to be. May I suggest some kind of Firewall software if your wife is downloading, Wally. Something to think about.
wallypiper
03-26-2010, 03:50 PM
AVG internet security suite in use. It includes a firewall.
NiceGuysFinishLast
03-26-2010, 03:54 PM
I recommend comodo personal firewall. Annoying at first, as it learns, but awesome once it's configured.
having now downloaded and tried google chrome, twice.............i'll stick with FF.
wallypiper
03-29-2010, 08:08 AM
Really? I'm using Chrome now and, while there's a learning curve because it implements some stuff differently, functionally, it's pretty much the same. And, so far, its more stable on my machine than FF has been. I may try FF again when they release a new upgrade. Maybe they'll solve some of the problems. If you google FF crash in WIN7, it's a pretty common problem right now people that have the problem mostly aren't finding any good solutions.
ehhh, i like FF, and until it gives me problems, i'll just keep using it. So far, i have had ZERO problems with it. ZERO problems with WIN 7 too. :up:
AutomationTech
05-06-2010, 02:04 AM
FF and Thunderbird run great here but I switched to Ubuntu a while back for my laptop, In-Laws PC and wife's PC that they kept getting BHO crap on. This new one 'The Beast' is running Lucid Lynx 10.04 and it rocks!
I have VirtualBox installed with Vista, Xp and Win2K VMs (One VM OS would have done fine but I test our apps for work too) for those few pgms that don't have an open source equivalent yet.
99% of the time I stay in Linux and only run the VMs when I absolutely have to.
Compiz makes Aero look weak.. IMHO
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZxfSwzhSn1c
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